Online dating tips and relationship advice from Dr. Neder...
Should I Contact This
Girl Again For a Date?
Hi,
So a week ago I met this girl. She was an old high school
friend of a new student in my department that I don't know
well yet. Anyway, I had a great time chatting with this girl.
We had lived in/traveled to similar places, had similar complaints
about the local traffic, and so on. It seemed like we had a
lot to talk about. At one point, she complained that she felt
there weren't many people our age in the city and she was having
trouble meeting them. I somewhat read this as an invitation
to ask her out.
Anyway,
when it looked like the event was breaking, I realized if
I didn't get her number fast I may never get
a chance to.
So I told her, "Hey, I had a lot of fun talking to you.
Do you want to hang out sometime?" It was a bit awkward,
but she did end up giving me her number. Afterward, I was a
bit stunned with the situation. I'm usually much more subtle
when I get a girl's number (i.e. we talk about a shared interest
and decide we should do something together), so I wasn't used
to so overtly asking a girl out. It also sank in that this
girl was totally gorgeous and interesting, and I had basically
lucked out big time in even getting her number.
I called her the next day intending on setting up a date for
sometime that week, but I came off really nervous and the conversation
was pretty awkward. When I asked her if she wanted to get some
coffee or dinner, she said maybe. When I tried to get her to
tell me a time that was good for her, she said she was pretty
busy because she was going out of town in a couple weeks. The
conversation ended shortly after that, and I didn't really
feel so great about the situation.
The day later, I found her on the Facebook and tried to friend
her, but she still hasn't accepted my request.
Anyway,
it's been about a week since I tried asking her out, and
I haven't contacted her since. I thought
this girl was
really interesting, but maybe I liked her so much it's made
me more nervous than I expect myself to be in these situations.
Even if she isn't interested in dating me, I would still very
much like to be this girl's friend. Should I try contacting
her again, or has she given me enough "not interested
vibes" that I should just move on and use my energy more
productively? If I do contact her again, what would be the
best medium (phone/text/e-mail) and how direct should I be
about me intentions with her (i.e. still would like to be her
friend if she isn't attracted to me)?
Thanks!
------------------------------------ Hello!
First off, I suggest you contact her one more time. I'll explain
how in a minute, but first I want to talk about your approach
and close.
You did many things right here. That's important - you had
a conversation with her, you determined commonality and even
got her to open up about not meeting guys her own age. These
are all signs of rapport building.
Now, what most guys do is they get this far and they never
bother to close. That is, ask for digits, a date, sex, or whatever
it is that they want. One important note: closing someone you
just meet for digits, dates or sex requires different types
of approaches. My point was simply that many guys will go through
all of this never to pull the trigger.
The first mistake (at least that I can see) was that you ASKED
her rather than telling her for the things you want. That is
a mistake.
You said, "Do you want to hang out sometime?" rather
than saying "Let's get together sometime. Here, write
down your number on this paper..."
The difference is subtle, but oh-so important! Always TELL
a woman what you want her to do. Don't ask her.
The next mistake you made was trying to hold a date on the
phone rather than using simply to SET a date. You want to use
the same technique right through the phone call. When you contacted
her you only want to to chit-chat for 2-3 minutes maximum.
You recount something you talked about during your first meeting
(approach) and then get right back to the close - telling her
what you want her to do.
The reason
for this is psychological. Here's an important rule I want
you to memorize: women want to date "up".
That is, they want to date men that they percieve have more
power than they do. What that power is isn't important, as
long as they sense it. When you ask someone to do something,
you're telling them that they are in control - and giving away
your power.
Also important
is the fact that when you ask, you give her the option of
saying "no". She didn't tell you specifically "no",
but misdirected you instead with that crap about being "busy".
Sure, we're all busy, but she's already told you that her problem
wasn't being busy, it's meeting guys.
Ok, so here's what you do next:
Call her
up (NEVER use text or email to set a date!) either today
or tomorrow (you don't want to wait
too long, or you'll
have to wait until she gets back from her trip.) *IF* she answers
(which frankly, is unlikely) say, "Hey, it's me..." and
ask her how she's doing. Next say, "I only have a minute.
Let's have a drink on Wednesday at 8. I'll pick you up so write
it down." (or whenever, wherever) Only plan to take a
minute or so on the phone. Not only will this help you get
past your nervousness but it'll have her off-balance.
Now, she
may say no and give you some excuse or try to beg off. You
can try one more thing. Just say, "You're the
one complaining that you can't meet anyone, and now I see why!
Just clear your calendar and let's meet." She may still
give you an excuse and if so, just say, "Nice to meet
you", hang up and move on. On the other hand, you might
actually be able to set up this date.
The bottom line is that you need to totally ignore her not-interested
vibes and just go for what YOU want. If you're really committed
to doing this, it's like panty-grease to women. Trust me.
As to being
her friend, don't you do it!!! You're just going to shoot
yourself in the foot and crack
your head against the
wall at the same time. Go to my website (http://beingaman.com)
and watch the short video on "friends" under BAM
TV. This will explain to you why this is such a bad idea.
Best regards...
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