Online dating tips and relationship advice from Dr. Neder...
Can You
"Love" If You Don't Like"?
Hi Dr. Dennis,
Hoping you can
lend some advice on this for me! I had been dating a girl I
attend school with for the last six months. Unfortunately we
were both at different places, she wasn't ready for a serious
relationship and I was all too ready. We tried to take it slow
but ended up damaging each other with fighting, insecurity and
harsh words.
In the end, there
was love in there somewhere but not a lot of respect or even
'liking'. We went through a series of breakups and finally decided
to just be friends and eliminate the stress and pressure of
trying to maintain this dysfunctional relationship. We have
been spending time together as friends.
In fact she calls
almost every day, even days that we see each other in classes.
The fun is coming back, the stress feels a little lighter and
this is only after two weeks or so! The problem is, I am stuck
being her friend and I still love her! She knows this as I've
told her, she wasn't quite as deeply involved emotionally as
me and now feels that I'm 'needy' simply cause I fell for her
(and told her...oops).
She doesn't feel
any sexual desire for me. Honestly, she must still be quite
hurt and confused from our fighting so I don't expect her too.
She is content to be friends as she said she feels comfortable
again, no pressure. She says sometimes she wants to kiss me
or touch me but isn't sure what would be ok, for her own good
as well as mine.
Can this work out?
We are so fun and alive together and work well together but
she is not available emotionally or sexually for a relationship
due to the damage. Will we be able to rebuild an intimate relationship
through a friendship? Even if she is wary? I'm in love with
this girl and want it to work out!
Thanks so much
for your help and kind advice!
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Hello!
Yes, this is an
unadvertised aspect of dating - you can be in love with someone
without actually liking him or her!
You're going to
have to make a decision here - what do you want from this girl
- a friendship or a relationship (including sex)? I'm sorry
my brother, you can't have both.
Depending on what
you want, you're going to have to go about things differently.
Let's look at the friendship option first:
Why would she want
to be your friend? This is an important question to get answered
right away. Consider this: by being your friend, and knowing
that you're in love with her - she holds all the cards! She
doesn't want a sexual relationship with you right now, but she
can keep you on the hook as long as she wants. Further, she
is completely free to date (and sleep with) anyone she wants
because, after all, you're just "friends".
Later if she decides
that she wants sex with you again, she just has to call and
she knows you'll be on her doorstep like a panting puppy. The
other benefit she has by being your "friend" is that
she can call you anytime (like she already does) and she knows
she has someone to go out with on a Saturday night if she wants
an ego boost or just needs someone to entertain her. You'll
be that guy with the big red nose and floppy shoes with just
a phone call from her! Additionally, if she has a light bulb
that needs to be replaced, needs a ride somewhere, wants some
help with something, she's got you to call; her "friend".
Here's a fact you'd
better get in your mind right now: Women don't make good "friends"
for men; they simply become "sexless boyfriends";
Here's another:
When women hold all the cards, they know it and they don't respect
the men over whom they hold them.
Here one more:
Women need to respect the men they date.
And one last one:
Women don't want to be chased by men - they want to DO the chasing!
My brother, these
aren't my rules - they were here when I arrived.
Now, if you're
interested in a relationship with this woman, you're going to
have to change your strategy entirely. Bear with me here - I
give this advice to a lot of men, and it consistently works
(if anything will!) Here's what you're going to have to do to
have any future possibility with this woman:
Get scarce
When I say "scarce",
I mean don't return her phone calls for at least a few days,
don't pick up the phone - especially on weekends - that's what
voice mail is for, and get yourself out there and get some phone
numbers!
Here's the gig:
by getting yourself busy, not only will you break the depression
of sitting around wondering why she won't sleep with you, but
by not being available to her, you instantly give yourself "value"
in her eyes. Remember those rules? She wants to chase YOU -
not the other way around. If she begins to think you're moving
on, she's going to start putting greater emphasis on you and
YOUR needs - after all, she wants to win here. All you're doing
is giving her what she wants!
You might want
to enlist the help of your friends. Let them know what you're
up to and see if they can work with you. As I've said in many
articles, if you take care of your friends, they will be there
when you need them most - like right now.
When you DO call
her back, or see her, keep it brief and to the point. It's much
better (for you) to end a conversation yourself rather than
trying to keep her on the line. Leave HER wanting more. In fact,
you really don't want to initiate any calls. Try to always be
the one RETURNING the calls - this give YOU back the control.
Then, when you return her calls (a few days later), ask what
she wants. She may say something like, "Well, I just wanted
to see you - I miss you." (A very good sign by the way).
Then, say, "Ok, when did you want to get together, and
what do you want to do?" Make HER do the work here.
By doing this,
you're creating great value for yourself in her eyes. Further,
when you DO get together with her, make sure it's not just to
go out and see a movie (like "buddies"). Be sure to
kiss her, hold her hand - basically all the things you'd do
on a date. You might make some moves toward the bedroom too.
If she gives you any resistance to this, just turn and say,
"Well, ok - I've got to go." And then leave!
After doing this
a few times (if it's even necessary), she may say, "Are
you just interested in me for sex?" To which you can tell
her, "No, but sex IS a part of a mature relationship between
men and woman." (If you don't feel comfortable saying this
to her, tell her I said so!), "If you're not interested
in a mature relationship, I'm not interested either." The
point of all this is to keep HER on the run. She'll love you
for it by the way. But you've got to get this started right
away. Once you fall into the "Friend Zone" it is very,
very difficult to get out!
I strongly suggest
that you pick up a copy of my book, "Being a Man in a Woman's
World" and commit it to memory. You've made a number of
grave mistakes here that may actually prevent you from EVER
putting things back together with her. If you're going to at
all you're going to need some new tools; what I call "male
philosophy". Further, you're going to need some new tools
for your future. Neither you nor I want you to ever have to
go through this again!
Best regards...
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