Online dating tips and relationship advice from Dr. Neder...
Get Serious!
( or get away from me )
Hey Dennis!
First off, this is “J” from San Diego. I wrote you back on
the 5th about the girl I work with, (hopefully you remember
me). Anyway, I just wanted to let you know what has been happening
with her since my last letter to you.
Over the last few weeks, I have
tried to remain a challenge to her, and have been giving
her little bits
of positive/ fun
attention here and there, along with the "interested/
not interested" technique, which seemed to work quite
well.
At one point, we even had what
seemed to be a full, VERY energetic conversation. She was
really touching
me like crazy (for emphasis--she's
a "physical-visual" type) and she was mirroring all
of my actions, and was very comfortable (judging from her pupils
being dilated and there being lots of time between her eyes
blinking, etc) in short, her body language told me she was
having a GREAT time.
Since then, I've been trying to build anticipation (attraction)
by keeping her at arm's reach, but still showing interest in
her from time to time (but very rarely). This seemed to work
well the first time (hence the conversation I described above),
and that brings us to tonight.
Tonight at work, I did some of the same things I described
above, starting the night out with making her laugh. Then I
ignored her for a while, etc. At the end of the night, I left
to go to a different department. Just before I got off for
the night, I went back to where I was originally working to
find her. I approached her and had the following conversation
with her:
me: Hey, ____, I want to take
you to get some tea one of these nights. Is Tuesday night
or Sunday night
better for you?"
her: "J"......(gasping
for thoughts), to get some what?? Some tea?
me: Yes.
her: I......can't...because I...I..work every single night.
Keep in mind this was a flat out lie, I checked her schedule
before I even asked her!
me: oh REALLY? (Now, I’m ready to bust her)
her: (Regrouping her thoughts) Are you serious? I can never
take you seriously.
me: Yes, I'm serious.
her: Well, I have off Tuesday night.
me: "Well then why don't
we do it Tuesday night?---slight silence (she couldn't think
what to say)---Be
ready for me
to pick you up at 7:30.
her: (She cuts me off), J....I can't....I..........can't do
this with you.....
To which I said: "Ok then – no thanks. I'm only interested
in people who are serious." (With a smile on my face)
and began walking.
At this, she grabbed my shirt and tried to pull me back like
she wanted to give me a speech or something, but after a moment,
she let go. I guess she wanted to keep me there!
As I walked away from her, she
said something like "I
can't because it's my only day off." (This is a lie by
the way, because her schedule said she was off on Tuesday,
Saturday, AND Sunday!)
BUT I WAS ALREADY GONE!!
And I knew she was just coming
up with excuses, but I don't think she expected me to "fight through" them.
____QUESTIONS____
What do you think I should do
now? I don't work with her again until Thursday. I feel like
I should
pretend she had no effect
on me with her so-called "rejection", however, I
also feel like she may try to feed me some sympathy story or "let's
just be friends" crap. How should I respond to this?
What else do you think I should I expect from her?
Should I give HER another chance
at all, or will this be yet another "more trouble than it's worth" story?
What could I have done better, and what should I do in the
future?
Is she a dreaded ATTENTION WHORE?
I know she was trying to play me, but I tried to let her know
I wasn't buying it. In a way, I wish she'd just come clean,
but I guess she never will.
Please let me know your opinions on this.…and thank you for
caring!
p.s.: I *LOVE* “Being a Man in a Woman’s World”, but I think
you already know that.
----------------------------------------------- Hey “J”!
Yes, I remember you!
First, good job with this woman! You really covered the bases
nicely and are well on your way. You have a couple minor issues
you'll need to address, but I'll get to that in a moment.
You definitely have her off-balance. That's exactly where
you want her, (and she wants to be!) So, now all you need to
do is to close the deal.
On to your questions:
Yes, it's very likely she's going
to give you a sob story. "Oh,
'J' - my cat just died, and I have a stain on my favorite blouse,
and the only time I could do the wash and have a funeral was
on Tuesday, and then it started to rain, so I .... blah, blah,
blah..."
Frankly, it doesn't matter WHAT
she says now! Your tack should continue to be: "Look, are you serious, or are you just
playing with me? If you're serious - DO SOMETHING (like accept
a date), otherwise, get the hell away from me!" If you
want to play this you can even wait until she comes up to you
(don't approach her on this one), and after she gives you the
story, say, "Ok, so how are you going to make it up to
me?" Then, be VERY quite and let her continue to squirm.
If you a real jackass, you can even keep on saying, "Ok,
and what else?" The point here is that your focus is on
setting that date.
Since you know her schedule, you can even use that to your
advantage. Here's how:
If she gives you another lie about
her schedule (you should already know it up front), just
say, "Ok, let's go check
it out!" Then, walk over to the time clock, board, or
whatever and look at it. When you catch her in the lie just
say, "Look, you're obviously scared enough to lie to me.
You have no reason to be scared of me, but starting a relationship
with lying isn't a good idea."
She'll give you some excuse about
it all and then you can just say, "Ok, both our schedules
are open next Tuesday [or whatever] so I'll pick you up at
7:30 pm,
and you can see
what I'm talking about then. Write your home number on this
paper..."
This should work like a charm - even if she's an attention
whore, or just confused!
Best regards...
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