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Girlfriend
Travels with Ex-Boyfriend
I am in a serious relationship with this girl, and we are seriously
contemplating getting engaged in the future. However, we
often get stuck on one issue: her ex-boyfriends. She keeps
in touch with several. She has always been very honest
with me about them, but it is obvious that she is very
good, old friends with a couple of them, and it makes me
uncomfortable at times. Yet, as far as trust goes, I do
trust her. She has never given me a reason not to, and
we have an extremely intimate relationship.
The problem arises from the fact that before she met me she
had planned to go to Egypt with a guy that she has been friends
with since high school (she just graduated from college, I
am graduating this year). She did not date this guy, but she
has told me that they did sleep together, fairly recently (just
over a year ago, before we met). Now she is over traveling
in Egypt with him, and what is worse, they are frequently sharing
rooms while traveling the country!!
Still, I am confident nothing is actually happening, but she
just fails to realize how much this hurts me. A large problem
is that she used to be in a two year relationship where the
guy was extremely jealous and overly controlling, to the point
where she told me he even wouldn't let her leave her house
sometimes. She has deep scars from this, and is very sensitive
to being controlled.
Two other things complicate the scenario.
The first is that when we started dating, our relationship
originally had a sort of expiration date. I was leaving the
country to go study for half a year to finish my degree, and
she was going to spend a few weeks in Egypt and then move to
the Middle East for an indefinite period of time. (Our majors
are International Studies, to explain the traveling theme here...).
It was implied that we were going to break up when I needed
to leave for my studies (I was scheduled to leave first). Yet
we both fell very hard in love with each other. Still, I left
her when the time came, and this was a decision we both agreed
upon. Unfortunately, after less than a week of being gone,
I realized that I was hopelessly in love with her, and decided
to do the romantic, chivalrous thing, and I came back and surprise
her and proclaimed my undying love for her. She took me back,
and I stayed with her for about two months until she was scheduled
to leave for the Middle East. We decided that I should finish
my studies abroad at that time, and she would stay in the Middle
East until I did, then come back for me and we would get a
place together. She also explained the traveling-in-Egypt-with-this-guy-she-has-slept-with
scenario (I hadn't known the history of her and this guy before).
She felt really bad about it, but she told me she had a responsibility
to follow through on the plans she had made with her friend,
and seeing as how I didn't consult her before coming back to
be with her, I wasn't really in a place to argue.
The second is that travelling the world together is something
we have both dreamt of doing, and are now planning to do as
soon as I graduate. Yet right now I feel even worse because
she is traveling with this other guy instead of me, even if
it is just for a couple weeks.
Now, she is over there and the damage is done. We have also
had several very serious arguments about this issue, to the
point where it is making her doubt our future. She is afraid
that I won't be able to get over her relationships with her
exes, which is the reason why she has had to break up with
almost every serious relationship she has had in the past.
I have asked her to do little things to make me feel better,
but she always gets angry because she starts to feel like I
am controlling her. Most recently I asked her for them to stay
in seperate rooms. She said that she would, but that it was
going to cost her a lot of extra money, that she would have
to pay for his rooms (she has some money saved up, this other
guy is broke), and she would resent me for making her to do
this. I buckled and told her to just do what she felt was right.
They have since shared several rooms together. Though, she
did talk with this guy for me before she did and to make sure
he understood nothing was going to happen between them. This
was her way of trying to make me feel okay with the situation.
I still feel like I have a right to be injured. I feel she
owes me a very deep apology for putting me through this and
has a lot of work to do to make me feel comfortable with her
and her exes. But I do not know how to approach it anymore...
I am afraid I will upset her. Our communication is often bad,
because of the technology as well as we keep ending up in arguments,
which are very, very stressful when it is long distance. I
will also not see her in person for several months while I
finish my studies. Should I wait to talk to her? What should
I tell her? What is reasonable for me to be feeling? We both
love each other dearly, but I don't know what to do anymore.
I don't think she knows either.
Please help. I badly need advise.
--------------- Hello!
Well now! Doesn't she have you wrapped up in a nice, neat,
little package??? She wants to do whatever the hell she wants
to do - even travel with past sex partners, stay with them,
etc., and she has you held at arm's length making up for over-controlling
past boyfriends. Sounds like a pretty convenient deal - for
her!
Further, she's making your concerns the issue here - rather
than the fact that this is just terribly disrespectful on HER
part to you and your relationship with her! She's obscuring
the truth by using misdirection - you and your issues with
her ex-boyfriends.
She's not
taking any responsibility here whatsoever; further, it's
not you both that love each other "dearly".
It's YOU that loves her dearly and she loves HERSELF and her
options dearly - more dearly than the relationship with you.
Let's be absolutely clear on that point.
Here's
the reality: this is totally and completely disrespectful
of her for you and your relationship. When
you get into a committed
relationship you have to be willing to give up some things
in order to get other benefits. She's not willing to give up
her freedom to do whatever she damn well pleases to do. That's
not a relationship at all. You're simply someone she sets on
the shelf and pulls down when she needs him, but ignores him
- and his needs, wants, desires, etc., - whenever it's not "convenient" for
her. Frankly, this woman is a self-absorbed, self-involved,
selfish bitch!
You need to wake up and see this for what it really is - it's
about HER controlling YOU in order to have exactly what she
wants without compromise.
Travelling somewhere with anyone other than her boyfriend
is a huge slap in the boyfriend's face and she knows you're
too much of a coward to stand up for yourself and demand the
type of treatment you deserve - or you'll walk. So, here you
sit with her traveling - and let's also be clear about this
- having sex with this other guy. Don't kid yourself. This
is what's really going on. I know because I see it all the
freakin' time! You'd better come to your senses and realize
what this is.
The biggest
reason why you need to realize this isn't even the respect
issue - it's that by tolerating
it, you're being
a huge pussy in HER EYES. She knows she can walk all over you
and you'll just sit there because you're "in love".
That translates to her owning your testicles and every other
part of you.
Here's what you need to do: kick this idiot to the curb. Tell
her that you absolutely, positively WILL NOT be treated with
this disrespect that she actually thinks she has some right
to throw at you. If you don't have the balls to do it, tell
her that I said so. Trust me, she'll never write to me to claim
otherwise because she AND I know the difference!
You're also going to have to realize that the months you two
are apart is simply another chance for her to find someone
else with more power and whom is worthy of respect - and she's
going to be looking. What she says and what she does are not
in sync here. It's actions, not words that mean everything.
Her actions speak very loudly: you're a convenience when you
do whatever she wants you to do - and when she has the time
for you - and you're a bother every other time.
Some relationship!
Worse yet,
you have every bit of power to talk which is the only thing
she seems to understand. No wonder
her ex-boyfriends
dumped her! She's looking for someone strong enough to tell
her what they expect and instead, she has someone that's "understanding" and "trusting" all
when she hasn't earned any of it.
Best regards...
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