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I'm No Longer His "Dream"
Hi, Dr. Dennis
I am a 34 year old woman who is insanely attracted (you could
even say devoted) to a 56 year old man who still makes me melt
after almost 4 years of knowing him. We have seen photos of
each other, but our only contact has been via e-mail and telephone
- never in person.
I met this man while I was still married. Our business relationship
turned friendly, and after a year and a half of a friendly
relationship, our talks led to more intimate and personal subjects
- I can honestly say I was the one who was curious about his
sexual likes and dislikes...he has always been a perfect gentleman
and has never placed an emphasis on anything sexual (that is
INSANELY attractive to me).
After a
year of a VERY intense emotional relationship (this man had
proven to me that he would wait as long as
he had to
for me), I had beat myself into an emotional frenzy because
I felt I was cheating on my husband, so I ended our "romantic" relationship.
I love the man dearly - he has my heart - so I explained that
I wanted to still be friends. He wanted to have contact as
friends once or twice a month, which I could not have lived
with, so he said he needed a couple of weeks to get used to
the "new order of things" - going from a very intimate
friendship to a platonic friendship, then he contacted me at
the end of a "2 week hiatus".
That was 1 year ago this month, and I have since divorced
my husband (for narcotic addiction - not because of my feelings
for this other man). I poured my heart out to this man a couple
of months ago, basically telling him how much I still care
for him, and I wish he would give our romantic relationship
another chance - at least meet me in person before he gives
up on us altogether.
This was
a man that was absolutely CRAZY about me last year, but he
told me recently that he did not see
a future with me,
even though he has a "great deal of affection for me that
he cannot deny". Lately, he has been growing more distant
- his phone calls are down from 8 a month to 3 or 4, and his
emails are only 1 per week now instead of 3 or 4. My divorce
will be final in 2 1/2 weeks, and I am wondering if he is trying
to distance himself from me now in an attempt to build attraction
since we plan to visit in person soon after my divorce is final?
I keep reading all this advice to men to create distance from
women to build attraction while still leaving them on her agenda.
I feel he is doing this to me - or maybe I am just HOPING that
is what he is doing.
Could he
be trying to get rid of me altogether since I am about to
be divorced because he would think I
was "needy" or
something? He said he is very attracted to my physical appearance
(I was voted best-looking in high school and have held my own
over the years), my analytical ability, my positive outgoing
attitude, my intelligence, and my devotion to my family and
friends - those are his words, not mine. Could a man throw
away a woman who was once the woman of his dreams? We have
stayed such good friends since the "romantic breakup",
but now he is creating all this distance - it's not normal
for him.
And for all you men who have read this far, here's a tip for
you - this man made me fall HARD for him because he was a perfect
gentleman who truly listened to what I said and could even
ask me questions about it later. He is VERY intelligent and
well-spoken, and has a genuine interest in every facet of my
life. And yes, I love him because he stands his ground and
did not let an emotional outburst I had get to him - he is
very strong emotionally without ever having walked all over
my emotions. He is very optimistic and supportive of me which
goes a long way.
I want this man, and without sounding too conceited, I just
cannot understand why he would not want me, but it appears
that way right now. Do you have any idea why he is creating
all this distance from me right before we are supposed to meet?
He KNOWS I would not sleep with a man that was not devoted
to me long term, so him telling me he does not see a future
with me is not promising. Maybe he just wants the sex and is
being honest with me about his standing on a long-term commitment
since we are good friends. Or maybe he can't say anything about
a long-term commitment since he has not seen me in person yet?
I know men are visual creatures like that.
Do you have any suggestions on what I could do to show him
that I would never leave him again now that I am soon to be
legally divorced? I completely crushed this man (and myself)
last year and I beat myself up for it daily, but I want him
to feel secure with me again now that I am free to be with
him.
I would really appreciate any help you could provide. Thanks.
----------------------------------- Hello!
First - to any guy that's reading this, I strongly urge you
to NOT use this as an example what to - or not to - do. In
fact, you should never take relationship/dating advice from
women unless they're lesbians and even then, their target market
is rather different from yours! Buyer beware!
Sorry -
this may work for you, but trust me, your situation; like
your relationship, is very different
from the "norm".
Any guy that believes this will work is going to find out the
hard way that it won't. Then, they're going to write to me,
very unhappy with the results.
Yes, I
can tell you exactly what's going on here. You've spent the
last 4 years building up an emotional
connection that frankly,
only exists in your mind. Your brain actually takes in information
at over 60,000 impressions PER SECOND. That's a tremendous
rate of information, and if your brain doesn't have access
to the real information, it "fills in the gaps" by
giving you whatever it is that you want. In your case, you
filled in the gaps with all the intellectual/emotional "chemistry" without
having the actual impressions to work with.
Consider
this: when you're "in person" you get not
only the verbal part of communication, but a much bigger part
is missing: non-verbal. You can't watch the tilt of his head,
the almost instantaneous, impreceptable movement of the corner
of his mouth and the slight changes in his complexion. Instead,
you've spent many hours on the phone and via email getting
none of this! Your mind has "inserted" this information
for you since it wasn't there. I'm sorry to say that you are
(in effect) in love with a ghost!
While you've
been building all of this up and creating all the things
you need to want this man, he's been
denied what
he needs! Even worse, you've now required that he create something
that doesn't even exist to get it! You demand (as you stated)
that he "devotes" to you when in fact, there is nothing
there (other than huge phone bills) on which to base such an
expectation.
Here's something you really need to understand: men and women
use sex and physical intimacy VERY differently; at least in
the beginning of the relationship. You (as a woman) use sex
to create bonding and inimacy. Men on the other hand use sex
to determine if we WANT TO create bonding and intimacy! This
period only lasts for a short while and if you miss it, it's
very difficult to get back - almost impossible.
Go back and re-read that paragraph until the idea really sinks
in. You need to understand why; while getting what you want,
you've also shot yourself in the foot by denying him what HE
needs in order to be where you are!
In effect, he's passed through all of the phases that you've
been building up to. He may very well have been where you are
now years ago. However, by not having the physical aspect of
a relationship with you, his mind decided to relieve this pain
by taking away his need for you. In effect, he's fallen out
of love with you and has become nothing more than a friend
and maybe even less than that.
Right now,
his contact with you is probably more out of habit than out
of need. By putting such huge
requirements on him
in order to even build anything from this point forward, he's
probably just given up and is moving on emotionally if not
mentally. This is why he sees no "future" with you.
It's based entirely on your past together.
All people
interested in relationships need to understand this point:
all relationships have a "window of opportunity" where
both people's needs coincide. Many women (and sometimes men)
try to artifically manipulate this window by saying things
like, "Let's take this slow" or in other ways like
preventing or putting of first meetings (as in this case).
What this does is to destroy the chance for the relationship
to begin to ripen. It never leaves this "proto-stage" and
eventually withers and dies.
I regret
to say that this is likely where things are for you now.
You've spent far too much time "selling" and
no time "delivering". While this may have worked
well for you, it absolutely didn't work for him. I can say
this with great assurity; both from being a man and having
talked to many, many thousands.
At this
point, I'm not very confident in your ability to "right" this
situation. I'll bet that on top of all history here, you're
also at some distance away from each other - maybe hours or
even days. With this added problem you aren't going to "fix" things
here unless one of you moves and even then, you still have
to get past the history!
If you two are local enough to get together regularly (like
instead of calling), I strongly urge you to do that right away.
Without being in person, you're never going to work this out,
and frankly, I doubt it even then.
Best regards...
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